BoydCon07 Source Material
DNI has a report up with relevant PPTs.
Here are links to two short recordings I managed to make during the Lind/Hammes session:
- One – Smart interchange between the two giants. 7:01
- Two – Overview of the canon by Lind. 2:42
Streaming/Download:
[audio:http://www.shloky.com/thoughts/audio/Lind-Hammes.mp3]
[audio:http://www.shloky.com/thoughts/audio/Lind-Canon.mp3]
And finally, a roundup of all my Boyd Conference posts for incoming links:
- Overview
- Osinga On Boydian Influences
- Boydian Maxims
- Gudmundsson On The ANG
- Lind On Barnett and IR
- Hammes On 5GW
- Hoffman On Modern/Future COIN
Thus ends my coverage of the actual events.
Hoffman On Modern/Future COIN
An interesting question was poised to Frank Hoffman, but the answer did less than satisfy me given that it is a topic I’ve written about before:
- (Restated): “Draining the swamp” strategy is likely not a viable plan in modern day COIN given that the supply chain is constantly approaching one individual.
- I don’t remember a real answer, anyone who does should feel free to post (this goes for all posts actually).
Hammes On 5GW
The most salient points:
- 4GW requires the entirety of governance to combat it.
- 5GW will require all of society to combat it.
Lind On Barnett and IR
Bill Lind was immensely entertaining, choice quotes when someone asked him about Thomas Barnett’s core/gap paradigm:
- “Total horseshit”
- “4GW for Children… complete with a fairy godmother leviathan”
- “Only the Pentagon could love it”
- “Ahistorical”
- “Acultural”
- “Not serious”
- “Should be read in a comic framework”
Lind on international relations:
- India is the land of the future and always will be
- The veneer is wearing thin
- China disintegrating is our greatest threat
Gudmundsson On The ANG
Bruce Gudmundsson said that the National Guard was ideally suited for COIN already because:
- Well connected as individuals, states and federal government representatives
- Designed for counterinsurgency given its domestic deployments in American history
- Coast Guard should be pulled in as well because it has been focusing on 4GW forces for its existence

